Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:52:42 +0200 From: Ruben <fbsd-q@bzerk.org> To: Jamie Heckford <jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk> Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 Message-ID: <20020607175242.A83475@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD>; from jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk on Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:51:20PM %2B0100 References: <LAW2-F136kUuTwDRzXI00005774@hotmail.com> <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org> <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD>
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On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:51:20PM +0100, Jamie Heckford typed: > Hi, > > Not sure if this is planned or if it has been done... but is there any > chance we can have sendmail > removed (In the next release cycle - or -current) from a base installation > completly perl style? Definitely not in 4.x, that would be a severe violation of POLA. > > Jamie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> > To: "Kenneth Mays" <kmays2000@hotmail.com> > Cc: <stable@FreeBSD.ORG> > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 > > > > If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote: > > > > > My only request is that we get to test these applications and > > > have some of them become the default applications in the base system: > > > > Hi Ken-- > > > > Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature > > improvements for 4.6-RELEASE. The time to make suggestions like this is > > at the start of the release cycle, not the end. Please see the schedule > > for 4.6-RELEASE: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html > > > > The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available > > for testing. They're about making available the best-tested, most > > dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical > > constraints. If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with > > possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT. > > > > That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the > > ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE. They might not be > > identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to > > some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when > > integrating them). > > > > > 1. NTP 4.1.1a > > > > /usr/ports/net/ntp > > > > > 2. Sendmail 8.12.4 > > > > Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back. > > It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze. > > > > > 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version. > > > > /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > > > > > 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable) > > > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc295 > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc31 > > > > > 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d > > > > That OpenSSH release is pretty recent. I don't think it made the ports > > freeze either. > > > > /usr/ports/security/openssl > > > > > 6. Samba 2.2.4 > > > > Not in the base system. > > > > /usr/ports/net/samba > > > > > 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on > Quadro/geforce > > > boards > > > > Don't know about these. If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the > > base system. > > > > > I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having > besides > > > the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done > but > > > listed here for reference. > > > > > > I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or > is > > > it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most > > > common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a > simple > > > doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6 > > > release?!? > > > > I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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