Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:48:06 -0700 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Message-ID: <CAJ-Vmomvt4AUQfuTC=CUbCBM00fNREoSH6RG%2B-N6%2BPo6OiaGjg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVdze=pe-x_ACX0BgwK3UNDgxSp_wyyLNTAoxE3Ons8Xgg@mail.gmail.com> References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <C88CB169-12FE-4692-92AA-5C7D41BB61DF@FreeBSD.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <CAG=rPVd93Q18aYnSGSf_QH4C08RCq5wsdKQSNYTgWQ2huTbUHQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAG=rPVfrM9SnqRU-g=L6Y39GM2yEd%2Bt6=UFhggauu0s3HJvpYw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomBOpOTeiF=toKFVRFavwFJg_js_O68z_%2B_xDxguqyB2g@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmokSu_oSiNNZKAGoof5d7SaAnO8F3TWjsxojQz5-7x1y=A@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVdze=pe-x_ACX0BgwK3UNDgxSp_wyyLNTAoxE3Ons8Xgg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 13 June 2015 at 18:22, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> > >> > I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's >> > approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose >> > entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each year. >> >> (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd boots, >> runs and keeps running on them.0 >> >> You can buy em too, some of them even under $60. > > > Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo? It's a tight squeeze as it is. Running in 8MB of flash (even if it's compressed) is still an exercise in "what can you cut out." My point isn't that it isn't running because of libxo; my point is that arguing about "embedded" involving "lots of storage" is woefully incorrect and will continue to be until those gigabytes of storage are available for a penny. Which yes, I'm guessing will happen in my career - but it's also quite likely code bloat will continue to chase that upward. -adrian
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