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Date:      Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:58 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Subject:   Re: Headsup! KSE believers should show up!
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0108281055200.8493-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <p05101014b7b0a0608824@[128.113.24.47]>

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Well, I for one can test it on an alpha (I'm borrowing from
chuckr@freebsd.org) as soon as my DSL gets installed ;-)

Ken

On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

> At 5:09 PM -0700 8/27/01, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> >      Is there some reason why KSE couldn't be integrated
> >ASAP *AFTER* 5.0 is released?
> >
> >[ Personally, I'd like to see it in 5.0, but, with all the qualms that
> >   people seem to have, I'm curious as to why it can't be integrated
> >   immediately after 5.0 is cut?  This way, Julian's MFCs are reduced,
> >   and it gives people more time to pound on KSE.  ]
> 
> In the interests of progress, let us assume for the moment that most
> of the qualms about KSE could be addressed by more testing of it,
> and a little more work for non-Intel platforms.
> 
> Based on that assumption, anyone who is eager for KSE should realize
> that NOW is the time to step forward and help out with it.  If we
> can get a reasonable amount of testing done in the next two or three
> weeks, then maybe we could get KSE committed for "5.0", and also
> get "5.0" released when we expected to release it.
> 
> I think this would be the ideal outcome.  If you have any energy to
> spare right now, let's put that energy towards the ideal outcome.
> But NOW is the time to help out, not in late October or November.
> 
> I have changed the subject for this message, because I am hoping
> that a more positive subject might get a more positive result.
> Anyone who does think KSE is worth having for 5.0, should step up
> and provide Julian with the help needed to address the legitimate
> concerns which have been mentioned.  Julian does not need people
> descending into a flame-war, he needs people to show up and help out.
> 
> -- 
> Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu
> Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu
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