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Date:      Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:16:50 -0400
From:      Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org>
To:        martes <martes@mgwigglesworth.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Spamassassin anyone???
Message-ID:  <20090425201650.GC79909@in-addr.com>
In-Reply-To: <0000054941@mail.mgwigglesworth.com>
References:  <1240615371.6029.34.camel@localhost> <20090425022227.GB79909@in-addr.com> <0000054941@mail.mgwigglesworth.com>

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On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0400, martes wrote:
> Sorry if this seems like a blinded assumption, however, whenever someone asks
> about the origin of explicit spam, such as the anti-semetic stuff that was
> posting to the list from an obviously mangled header source, someone always
> brings up that the lists are not proctared, as if there is not any management
> at all, and such obvious garbage is just going to post due to lack of
> supervision, or spam protocals...  

1) Please do not top post

2) There are only two known methods for dropping 100% of spam

2a) Have a human sit and read every single e-mail and make a judgement
    call that only a human can do as to the messages legitimacy.  I am
    not aware of any organization anywhere in the world that has
    managed to get that system to scale to any volume.

2b) Turn off your SMTP server

The lists are not *moderated*, other than the -announce lists and
freebsd-security-notifications.  Most of the lists are open to
all posters and not just list members as not everyone who wants
to be involved in the project or who uses FreeBSD in some capacity
subscribes to the lists.  The exception to that is freebsd-security.

However do not take the lack of enforcement at the mailing list
level as there being no anti-spam measures.  There are a variety
of A/S measures in place that protect not only the mailing list
servers but all freebsd.org e-mail addresses.

If you, or anyone else, feels that they could contribute to the defeat
of spam on the FreeBSD lists (e.g. by being an active moderator with
a long-term commitment to minimising delays in posting caused by
the moderation system) then please feel free to offer your services
to the postmaster team.  

Regards,

Gary



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