Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:10 +0100
From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To: Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>
Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: snd_envy24{,ht} recording support?
Message-ID: <1363779850.586.86.camel@archlinux>
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On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:30 +0000, Tom Evans wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf > <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 08:52 +0100, Yamagi Burmeister wrote: > >> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:19:59 +0100 > >> David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> The need for high end add > >> in sound cards is much lower than 10 years ago. > > > > That's not true, if you want to replace your HiFi gear by a computer, > > you need a good sound card too, that anyway, will be less expensive than > > good HiFi gear. _All_ on-board devices are crap! > > Well, digital data either works without corruption or doesn't work. > > You can spend as much money on a sound card as you like, but if the > sound card is only outputting digital data over SPDIF to a separate > DAC, then there is no difference between the cheapest card and the > most expensive card, both would sound identical. I don't like consumer SPDIF, but this is OT now, indeed I'm thinking of analog IOs. So I'll rephrase my claim: Analog IOs and D/A, A/D converters of _all_ on-board devices are crap! Yes, if SPDIF should work, it should be without loss, even for those on-board devices. There anyway could be quality issues, but that also could happen with professional gear.
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