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Date:      Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:45:07 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Daniel Eischen <eischen@pcnet1.pcnet.com>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removing old binaries
Message-ID:  <20021008021507.GR57557@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <p05111725b9c7ecc4b42a@[128.113.24.47]>
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On Monday,  7 October 2002 at 22:11:09 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 11:29 AM +0930 10/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday,  7 October 2002 at 21:57:28 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
>>> How about for each directory, if there are old files found in the
>>> directory then create a ".OLDINSTALL" sub-directory, and move the
>>> files into there (instead of removing them).  And, of course, avoid
>>> descending into those .OLDINSTALL directories...
>>
>> That would be an option.  But why do you need to put other files in
>> these directories in the first place?
>
> What do you care? 

I don't, up to the point where you ask the install process to respect
your choice.

> I bought the PC, freebsd did not.  Maybe it is convenient for me to
> have a file there.  Maybe I did it by mistake.  Maybe it's a core
> file that landed there and I forgot to move it.  Maybe you'll help
> me by removing it.  Maybe you'll piss the hell out of me by
> destroying some important file that was never created by freebsd in
> the first place.  Maybe I did an "install -C" because that was
> appropriate for *me*, in *my* situation.  Maybe I installed some
> port with "PREFIX=/".  What do you care?  What is GAINED by the
> freebsd project deciding that it has the right to go around
> destroying files on people's hard disks?

I thought I had explained that a while back.  Consistency and
repeatability.

> I understand what is gained by moving known-obsolete files out of
> the way, but that does not justify going wild with "rm" commands
> just because freebsd "wants to own" /usr/bin and friends.

I would think that a NOCLEAN_OLD or some such option would probably be
to accommodate you.

Greg
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