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Date:      Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:11 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   RE: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation 
Message-ID:  <200201161010.g0GAAB444029@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR misc/33906; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To: "Sheldon Hearn" <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
Cc: <bug-followup@freebsd.org>
Subject: RE: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation 
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:09:22 -0800

 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: Sheldon Hearn [mailto:sheldonh@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za]On Behalf
 >Of Sheldon Hearn
 >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:54 AM
 >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 >Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
 >Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD
 >installation 
 >
 >
 >
 >So I don't think that was a good example.
 >
 
 It wasn't supposed to be a good example, it was supposed to be a smartassed
 example. :-)  claws is an appropriate adjective, though.
 
 >>  Don't forget that Sun just mightily pissed off all
 >>  it's Solaris 8 users when they announced last week that Solaris 9
 >>  won't be ported to Intel 32bit.  You would be amazed at the number
 >>  of people "threatening" to go to FreeBSD in the Sun forums,
 >>  almost more than are "threatening" to go to Linux.
 >
 >That sounds like good news.
 >
 
 Depends on your point of view of course - we use some Solaris here
 and the other admin who likes it was much unhappier. :-)  I do
 think though, that we are going to see some interest as a result
 of that, primariarly because Sun has been giving away free copies of
 Solaris 8 for a long time now, and the lower-end customer base has
 gotten a taste for free software as a result.  Sun is or was even including
 a CD with a gcc binary on it.
 
 >Given how a Solaris box is pretty useless until you've installed some
 >packages on it, I don't think Solaris users will find it weird that they
 >should have to install a package to get tic(1).
 >
 
 Ugh, tell me about it.  It takes 4 times longer to set up an equivalent
 system - they don't even have stuff as basic as a /dev/random device
 in the default install.
 
 >I think a solution in the ports tree that produces a package should be
 >enough.
 >
 
 As I've said before that would be fine too - as long as there's an
 entry in the description of the port that mentions termcap and
 terminfo so that ye who seeks shall find.  That's the whole point
 of these PRs anyways - so that those who follow have it easier.
 
 Ted

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