Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:06:27 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r251794 - in head: . contrib/cvs etc etc/mtree gnu/usr.bin gnu/usr.bin/cvs share/doc/psd share/doc/psd/28.cvs share/mk tools/build/mk tools/build/options tools/tools/nanobsd/gateworks Message-ID: <20130616110627.GJ72830@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <CAGE5yCrw00J=3Yre1q9h_8pM66RdYQbDHj-bHHM6O44j77%2B1OQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <201306152029.r5FKT8S3012945@svn.freebsd.org> <51BCEBED.9060101@FreeBSD.org> <CAF6rxgnwwpqLo5Ae5NdmfmATdAft3=DBeJwc8wTWe5mjYY9pyg@mail.gmail.com> <51BCFA1C.4030100@FreeBSD.org> <CAGE5yCrw00J=3Yre1q9h_8pM66RdYQbDHj-bHHM6O44j77%2B1OQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--GlnCQLZWzqLRJED8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 08:06:03PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> wro= te: >=20 > > There are build-time dependencies on cvs. This is just grepping my last > > (partial) exp-run logs for '/usr/bin/n?cvs' >=20 > Where was this righteous indignation when the perl 5.14.2 -> 5.14 > directory rename abomination was unleashed? Why wasn't every perl > port micro version bumped? If ever there was a festering pile of > horse excrement, that was one. >=20 Wow that is nice, and very respectful of others work, given that the perl c= ase has a reason to be (able to properly handle updates in binary only world) p= lus it was exp-run, and there is a load a explaindd way to upgrade: see UPDATIN= G, users were informed via mails, plus updating. On the other hand this commit we all want to see in, breaks a lots of ports= with no documented way to recover, no testing on side effects etc, That is the concern bryan is trying to explain, a simple exp-run would have cost 18h ho= urs and we would have been able to at least warn the users. We want working packagss on HEAD but we don't want the pay the price of it = aka, testing changes against ports before committing, with poudriere it is now v= ery even on self hardware to do such tests. Bapt --GlnCQLZWzqLRJED8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlG9nDMACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ey37ACeIqcs0iRWG3bCL0r39WJL8X+H kF8AnA+MO+VdfBqpbL0pQHuvDG/T7ahu =WAl4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GlnCQLZWzqLRJED8--
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