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Date:      Mon, 19 May 2014 09:56:10 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>
Subject:   Re: netmap and other discussions on freebsd-net: please be open minded.
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On 19 May 2014 01:42, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2014 01:02:42 _0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
>  > Folks, i have two requests for you:
>  >
>  > 1. please do not complain about questions on this list related
>  >    to a core network-related FreeBSD subsystem (netmap, dummynet,
>  >    netgraph, tcp stack...) even if they are concerned with ports
>  >    to Linux or other OSes or to userspace.
>  >
>  >    At least in principle, these topics _are_ relevant here precisely
>  >    because they relate to code whose main home is in the FreeBSD
>  >    source tree, and bugs or feature suggestions etc that may emerge
>  >    will directly benefit FreeBSD.
>
> I'm glad I waited before responding to the OP+1 or I may have been
> somewhat less polite, let alone authoritative .. so thanks.
>
> I can only add that projects such as netmap - and ipfw & dummynet for
> Linux for that matter - can only serve to lower the wall, in perception
> at least, between the merits of either OS for purpose, and further
> increase the exposure of the quality of FreeBSD networking to the Linux
> masses; ie, I believe this can only be a net gain for FreeBSD overall.
>
>  > 2. on the other hand, it would be good if people could avoid questions like
>  >    "give me step by step instructions on how to install/run/use X".
>  >    There are notes in README and Makefiles, something on the
>  >    web pages, and quick web searches should point you to previous
>  >    mailing list discussions on the same topic _before asking_.
>
> googling 'netmap linux' seems to point to most everything relevant,
> including some discussions on Linux lists, and perhaps illustrative
> of (1) is http://www.ntop.org/pf_ring/dna-vs-netmap/
>
> cheers, Ian (no, I haven't played with netmap, but it sure smells good!)

My experience is the opposite - it makes it easier to migrate away
from FreeBSD to Linux.

You have to be careful.



-a



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