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Date:      Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:38 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Jonathan Michaels <jon@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bad144 missing?
Message-ID:  <20000422003638.A13562@orion.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au>; from jon@welearn.com.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM %2B1000
References:  <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au>

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On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote:
> my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi
> with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that
> even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add
> one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops
> bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction.

Something made eight years ago isn't modern in this industry.  It wasn't
even particularly modern then.  My parents had a machine with IDE disks
before '92.

> some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the
> rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? 

3.x is a great version, it's got bad block support.  I can't think of
any good reasons to upgrade a box so old it has an esdi disk in it to
4.0.  Most of the visiable improvements are for server class machines or
in crypto integration.  A machine with isn't a server class machine and
proably wasn't even in '92.  Cryto code an a circa '92 machine is going
to hurt.  A lot.

> take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking
> one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the
> answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere.

If people ask themselves that question and the answer comes up no, then
by all means, they should look elsewhere.  FreeBSD *CAN* *NOT* be all
things to all people.  I use FreeBSD almost exclusivly and push it to
anyone who will listen and could use it, but there are things I wouldn't
or couldn't do with it.  For instance, I wouldn't try to fit it onto
devices so primitive they don't have VM hardware (i.e. a Palm Pilot) and
I certaintly wouldn't try to run a major financial institution's account
database on it.  See my sig.

> and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ?
> 
> what are they supposed to do ?

As I mentioned above, run 3.4 or even 2.2.8 depending on your needs.

-- Brooks

-- 
Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE.


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