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Date:      Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:37:47 +1300
From:      "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org>
To:        Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: syscall kernel modules on 3.0-release
Message-ID:  <200102080219.f182JAE39186@ns1.unixathome.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0102072110000.42056-100000@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>
References:  <xzpofwemfs2.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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On 7 Feb 2001, at 21:14, Matthew Emmerton wrote:

> On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Luckie <mjl@SDSC.EDU> writes:
> > > I completely understand your plea to not use 3.0 release.
> > > I am personally using 4.2-stable.  Its not my decision to use 3.0
> > > I beleive the computers running 3.0 have been running it for several years
> > > now - i.e. it was the latest available at the time.
> > 
> > Well, it was a stupid decision at that time, and the decision not to
> > upgrade or replace these machines now is even stupider.

Be careful how you criticize.

> Hey now, go easy.  Lots of stupid decisions are made by "managers" who 
> don't understand the implications of old(er) technology.
> 
> I've got a 3.2-R machine which I'm forced to maintain, and the only reason
> why it's not running 3.2-S or 4.2-S is because I can't take the stupid
> thing offline.  I've haggled with my boss for a 6 hour window and the
> answer is no, no, no.  I've even got a 3.2-S installation waiting in
> /usr/obj.

What about replacing the box with a new box?  Smaller window.

> The only way I'm going to get my 3.2-R machine upgraded (and the only way
> this person is going to get their 3.0-R machine upgraded) is when it
> breaks and requires a complete reinstall to become operational.

It might pay to send an email to your boss, cc'd to yourself explaining 
this.  I've seen some managers who make decisions such as that and 
then blame others when the crap hits.

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Dan Langille
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