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Date:      Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:50:16 +0100
From:      Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
To:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removal of catman from base
Message-ID:  <EA6C0799-46D9-4782-9E07-4826433D6B4B@gid.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <78909.1505251253@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20170912184200.GD99742@gmail.com> <77524.1505242222@critter.freebsd.dk> <alpine.BSF.2.21.1709121210140.54096@orthanc.ca> <78909.1505251253@critter.freebsd.dk>

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Hi,

> On 12 Sep 2017, at 22:20, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> =
wrote:
>=20
> --------
> In message <alpine.BSF.2.21.1709121210140.54096@orthanc.ca>, Lyndon =
Nerenberg writes:
>>> That was actually not why catman was brought into the world:  =
ATT/USL
>>> thought text-processing was The Goods so they unbundled it base SVR
>>> and invented catman to make up for the missing nroff.
>>=20
>> Not quite.  They (AT&T) sold the rights to sell typeset manuals to =
some=20
>> publishing house (I forget which), at which point they stopped =
shipping=20
>> the *roff source for the manpages on the source tapes.  Instead, you =
got=20
>> pre-formatted "cat" pages on the source tape.  I think this happened=20=

>> starting with SVR3.

That is correct. We wrote some excruciatingly ugly scripts that mostly =
reconstructed the *roff source from the formatted pages.

> I'm pretty sure that SVR1 had catman and roff was an extra and =
somewhat
> pricey software package.

That is also correct: by SVR5 that had become the Documenter=E2=80=99s =
Workbench (DWB).

> --=20
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe   =20
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by =
incompetence.
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