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Date:      Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:09:23 -0800
From:      "Southwell" <vizion@ptialaska.net>
To:        "Kris Kennaway" <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Attachments request
Message-ID:  <003201bf9e63$e37f87c0$14e346c6@demon.co.uk>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004032227290.53130-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>

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Just wanted to say thanks to all those who pointed out the inconsistenecy of
asking all you guys to refrain from using attachments whilst sending out
emails in HTML with a Gif attached......my only excuse is that I have moved
half way over the world and do not yet have a bsd system up and running
:-) - waiting for the new 4.00 CDs to arrive .. any day now I hope. I really
appreciated the light hearted and friendly emails sent to my own email
address.. thanks guys.



> Kris Kennaway wrote
--.> Attachments are often useful for distributing files (patches, program
> logs) with email.

I agree with you Kris and I feel I should have pointed that out with my
original request. My main objection surrounds those who do not put the
substanstance of their message in the main email but provide you with a
subject line - no introduction and you therefore get blind attachments..
Such postings exhibit, IMHO, discourtesy and I would rather people refrained
from that practice. Certainly attachments are very appropriate for the sort
of things you mention.

> I understand that for whatever reason some people can't use FreeBSD to
> read their email, but this _is_ a FreeBSD list and I don't think we should
> worry too much about catering to other platforms.

This is another point which you could regard as being subsidiary to the main
issue. I am not certain that I would agree with you here for three reasons.

The first is a general one, and one that you might regard as irrelevant but
I do not. I feel we need not disregard anyone's legitimate concerns. I also
feel a need to be very welcoming to people who may (for example) be
subscribing to the list as part of a learning exercise prior to installing
freebsd. They are going to be very put off if they find people behaving in a
manner they find to be either intolerant or inconsiderate.

The second reason is that such an approach is somewhat inconsistent with the
proclaimed notion that it is sensible to track this list prior to installing
freebsd.By definition that would be done from some other platform.

Thirdly freebsd users might want to track the list using some other OS if
their system is down and they can`t fix it. They may want to use "some other
lousy OS" or mailer to ask for help. And that poor unfortunate sould could
be any one of us some day. So my plea is - can we, on those grounds at
least, err on the side of being inclusive in our thinking rather than
exclusive.


David

In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate or emails
without attachments (unless needed as described above) :-) !! :-) (perhaps!)
 with apologies to     -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu> and
giving full credit to Kris

David



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