Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:05:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ata: SIGNATURE: ffffffff Message-ID: <20110623040543.GA30691@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20110623030856.GA32455@gmail.com> References: <BANLkTinP_vjZn3uQ6-kXc4zAsXGZatD7zg@mail.gmail.com> <BANLkTinx7eKSv02ZpB6XPSKbf5tBWRAmZA@mail.gmail.com> <20110622164129.GB31480@gmail.com> <BANLkTimzLqDyfgDXmZLKQGSNTDc8MaDgLQ@mail.gmail.com> <20110622171324.GC31480@gmail.com> <BANLkTikU=MzjsrQzezap4CWe2dZC4NmbmA@mail.gmail.com> <20110622224404.GA32157@gmail.com> <BANLkTiknPbALHtsG8bUq1wCGeiXdE%2B%2B3GQ@mail.gmail.com> <C2A4619C-AFFD-4F31-97D4-EE65E5FB1F57@my.gd> <20110623030856.GA32455@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:08:57PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > * Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> [2011-06-23 03:56:54 +0200]: > > > On 23 Jun 2011, at 01:02, George Kontostanos <gkontos.mail@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Look, I think that this is getting personal and not constructive at all. > > > Stop mumbling unless you have something useful to add. > > > > > > > How about you do what he says and stop top posting, as per the list's policy ? > > > > Annoying pretty much everyone in the list with your stubbornness about > > top posting and your misplaced rudeness towards a helper might result > > in a drop in the number of people willing to spend time helping you. > > This will be my last post on this topic. George you are rude and I know > I will not be offering any more suggestions for you. I foresee few > others willing to help you now as well. Jeremy has willingly given you a > great amount of detail to work with and it's up to him to look past your > rude behavior and continue to help you. <off-topic> The difference is that I really don't care if people top-post, bottom-post, or respond in-line. I work with whatever I'm presented with. I personally use all 3 methods depending upon the context is and what mailing list rules allow/permit. But it varies per list, and some lists have zealots that absolutely despise top-posting (even if the list permits it). I fully acknowledge that the FreeBSD lists advocate and insist upon in-line or bottom-post replies, and I honour that -- as should George. But let's be reasonable: there's a problem at hand that George is needing help with. The last thing a person under duress (re: in a situation like this) needs is to be lectured about "not confirming to mailing list style". I say this knowing that conforming to said list style is important, however. I tend to keep my "style conformity" requests very terse and mentioned as one-liners at the bottom of the mail, e.g. "P.S. -- Folks here don't like top-posting, please try to avoid it if you can, thanks!". Otherwise all it does is irritate an already-irritated person who's in need of assistance. Remember: they took the time to ask for help, which in this day and age is practically a miracle. </off-topic> -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB |
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