Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:14:50 -0800 From: Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net, Justin Hibbits <jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up Message-ID: <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> References: <472D56A1.7070206@gmail.com> <200711041119.45971.jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> <472DD231.9030501@gmail.com> <472E67CC.9040201@delphij.net> <472E4FF0.3080801@gmail.com> <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> <472F466E.8050405@delphij.net> <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com>
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Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> LI Xin wrote:
[...]
>>>>
>>> The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then.
>>>
>> How come the number is so important for you? What do you think if you
>> have to drop into single user mode and adjust fstab manually and the box
>> is several thousands of miles away from you after a simple 'make
>> kernel'? I think changing this behavior is a big POLA and not the right
>> thing to do.
>
> It prevents certain automated config issues that may or may not be
> issues as stuff moves more mass market... I know FreeBSD unlike Linux
> has no aim to be a non-techinical enduser OS but I find my self
> increasingly recommended it as the prefered UNIX desktop enviroment
> because so stability and the general ease of using the ports/pkg system
> compared to RPM's... sad to say many of the end-user oriented tools
> occasionally make naive but critical assumptions about how a machine is
> layed out.
Which tool? This is apparently a bug of the tool, because the tool
won't work on Solaris either.
>>>> - Wrong SATA type/speed reported
>>>> More information is needed if you really want to have this problem
>>>> resolved, like atacontrol output, etc.
>>>>
>>> See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know all
>>> the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by several of
>>> the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IHC9
>>> owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the wiki
>>> is aimed at)
>>>
>> Please provide links on the wiki if you really want it to be useful.
>>
> I am at the end of a long day so I will dig the links up and post them
> tommorow (and send you copies)
>
>> I think the only ich9 issue I am aware of so far is that a specific
>> model of it is not recognized. This is fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7.
>
> If you don't have an ICH machine I invite you to get one and verify the
> issues ;-)
Mine has no problem, and I can not afford to buy a new piece of hardware
right now.
>>> 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is the
>>> same one I got here
>>>
>> Is the problem still exist for latest RELENG_7 and RELENG_6? Who can
>> provide some basic testing for a new snapshot?
>>
>
> I csup my version of -CURRENT every day (do a buildkernel anytime there
> are more then 10 commulative changes):
>
> FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 3 21:33:49
> EDT 2007 aryeh@monster:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64
>
> and do a build world about once a week plus a ground up rebuild of all
> ports twice a month... in other words I am as current as anyone and the
> issues still persist.
PCI ID and dmesg?
>> No, it does not help if that's just "it panics", "foo is not supported"
>> if no detailed information is provided and we don't have our hands on
>> the actual hardware.
>
> I have submitted the complete verbose dmesg, pciutil -l and everything
> to several people and all of them have come to the conclusion that there
> is no obvious smoking gone beyond ("it just doesn't work")... Thus the
> comment of ICH9 owners are on their own... Next time I reboot I will
> send you a copy if you really want it.
Yes, please. These information is very important for knowing how to
change the situation, thanks.
Cheers,
- --
Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/
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