Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:48:23 -0800 From: Gordon Tetlow <gordon@freebsd.org> To: "Gary W. Swearingen" <underway@comcast.net> Cc: Peter Schultz <pmes@bis.midco.net> Subject: Re: To the Armchair Directors Message-ID: <20040315234823.GG660@spiff.melthusia.org> In-Reply-To: <beptbeatot.tbe@mail.comcast.net> References: <20040315134745.1eb201f4.manlix@demonized.net> <20040315125710.GK797@camelot.theinternet.com.au> <20040315140153.30348b1e.manlix@demonized.net> <xzpekrugsor.fsf@dwp.des.no> <4055B648.3000306@bis.midco.net> <beptbeatot.tbe@mail.comcast.net>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 09:47:30AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Peter Schultz <pmes@bis.midco.net> writes: > > > Don't piss off the programmers! ;-) > > > > If you're not a programmer, restrain yourself from suggesting how easy > > this or that thing would be to do. These guys simply *do not* need > > your "input". Remember that this is *open source* and that if you > > think something is worth doing that nobody else is working on, you > > need to take on the project yourself. > > The above sort of user-off-putting attitude seems inappropriate to > this mailing list, if we're to believe the Handbook's description, > which begins: > > Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-CURRENT > > This is the mailing list for users of FreeBSD-CURRENT. > > This list seems to be the main interface between users and developers, > where the later can get a sense of what the former think of their OS > and what's wrong with it, in design as well as implementation. > Otherwise, they should just isolate themselves in hackers@ or start up > a freebsd-current-dev. Jumping on someone for thinking out loud about > the difficulty of a better (?) design just pisses off users instead of > developers. Save it for the -hackers list or start up a -current-dev > list where developers can isolate their delicate sensibilities from > us whiny users. It's not the suggestion, it was the "This couldn't be too hard to implement" that gets on nerves. I can say that I found it rather annoying, and all too much like my day job where people tell me how long I have to do something when they are not in a position to know how long something takes to implement. -gordon [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAVkDHRu2t9DV9ZfsRAlVkAKCO9GgpeZGrqqlL5lK/TA8x9N7kOQCgiPW1 4DfIsA6uKebHLO8bXkM1jfA= =lu+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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