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Date:      Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:17:42 -0500
From:      Richard Coleman <richardcoleman@mindspring.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: -fno-strict-aliasing
Message-ID:  <40283F46.5050307@mindspring.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040209215345.GA21980@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <c11ba4d1.a4d1c11b@etat.lu> <20040209022820.00faa408@pyro.convolution.ti> <20040209043217.GA1009@xor.obsecurity.org> <4027871E.8080800@mindspring.com> <20040209215345.GA21980@xor.obsecurity.org>

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:11:58AM -0500, Richard Coleman wrote:
> 
>>Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:28:20AM -0200, Bruno T. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi everyone.
>>>>i'm pretty new to bsd, but i have some background in linux development
>>>>and for what i have seen until now, i must say that -CURRENT is rather 
>>>>impressive, congrats !
>>>>
>>>>I was rebuilding my base sys and noticed that any compiler flag 
>>>>that implies -fstrict-aliasing (like -O2) would break some few things,
>>>>adding "-fno-strict-aliasing" to "CFLAGS+=" in these makefiles
>>>>solves the problem for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't do that then :-)
>>>
>>>Kris
>>
>>Although it's not urgent, I don't see why the aliasing problems can't be 
>>fixed.  I think it would be more honest if the party line was "FreeBSD 
>>has bugs, so we can't use -O2 right now" rather than the standard reply 
>>of "-O2 is not supported, don't even try".
> 
> 
> It's "don't even try unless you plan to fix them".
> 
> Kris

I don't have any problem with that.  The person that started the thread 
(Bruno) was actually looking at the code (at least the Makefiles).

I guess my point is that we should never dampen someone's enthusiasm for 
fixing bugs.  We can be pretty grumpy around here sometimes :-)

Richard Coleman
richardcoleman@mindspring.com



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