Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 21:15:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <BF66EA01-E073-45F0-8F9E-22D57E8871B0@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> References: <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] > On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net> wrote: > > On 4/19/2016 3:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles >> away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with >> pkg, they can very well roll their own. >> >> It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can >> muster, I just wish it wasn't always enthusiasm for stopping progress. >> > > Maybe I missed an email in this thread, but I don't recall anyone completely rejecting the idea of packaging the base system. What I see is a discussion related to doing it in the best way possible. Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress is made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds people into dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers storming the castle. No good can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a factor of 100 and try to have the conversation again. Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXFvRjAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAdIsQANVvvNwp/eegfAkWPdiJnL0m Wb0F2F9AFyhYOnfspOJmnlxfqEaZBrVZFXyEgYnmq5444cQYWCcpxqBn8rfhqwrO +BvpHuA6ZHH0j+m56aMIbAFcq77s+HQ26k20yL8XD19XjP11cylttnHP5WASVSAQ /4l9PpwR2fI12Wu1hmzdtFlBjl29mODGILOquD7DMGENJ9bRMWTC3Xaj99NKo7ve wWa4Z6axWshurF5K76nvbz/tL+8Lv2XjgBWPegSxAokxvx23AIvcMJhnZJ/ZetAD P/UCWhknRv4+j+Ev00p92Sk5CrIa1HAahn3EVsIe33udHvlVRhFCny6Q8gKM+KXD bSKTZWOXNq5EK18TsP1rwxpAS9RAy05SgzsbtfLMIEnQGmQQMK3FKEk2T7WuVUja SFQdLKI/bXVB9uXjtCiTqgb19tY5XFCKN+ORPmgcmSSIYN36PEp8U/CYeOAXYPcF NSDgYo/ki3DvuBfirh14E2aCpF8s7dOE1yTEL1xRFVkJdYWNGG6zDDee/gIPg3hq LSt4ABALx34R8AT52bb3UM2LhMNbmal8Btu++gimplhKC3O1x5f48YXh7pvyWqlR uHPL2rIiJ1lpA+CqTTBtlQ50E6kaWk2JMxJ7o2VJesxz96mu4vd2wi0AraAF74d7 5HKqEcHRHEBDoZsQ54Al =How5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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