Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:46:12 -0800 From: "Garrett Cooper" <yanefbsd@gmail.com> To: "Alfred Perlstein" <alfred@freebsd.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu>, src-committers@freebsd.org, Ken Smith <kensmith@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r185982 - head/usr.sbin/sysinstall Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0812261746g66d19d2clf646333cf9da5559@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20081227011017.GW18389@elvis.mu.org> References: <200812121158.mBCBwRPT096820@svn.freebsd.org> <20081226234619.GT18389@elvis.mu.org> <1230336804.25666.11.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <20081227011017.GW18389@elvis.mu.org>
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On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> wrote:
> * Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU> [081226 16:13] wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 15:46 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> > Does this mean that the user has to find the "Linux" package in the
>> > "add packages" area now? If so, that seems a bit complicated to
>> > get started. There's a LOT of packages. Pardon if I'm missing something
>> > obvious here.
>>
>> Yes, sort of.
>>
>> I've asked portmgr@ to help with setting things up so we've got a couple
>> of new meta packages that help users set up a usable workstation
>> relatively painlessly. They've said we can work together with the Gnome
>> and KDE folks to try and get that set up. I'm not sure at this point if
>> Linux emulation will be part of that or not, we haven't gotten quite
>> that far yet. And we'll do something to make those meta-packages
>> relatively easy to find. For example without something along those
>> lines a user may just select the "gnome2" metapackage thinking they'll
>> get a usable workstation but at least as of the last time I did
>> something like that you don't quite wind up with a usable workstation
>> (xorg-server is missing for example :-/).
>>
>> That said this has sort of been threatened for quite a while now, and
>> having sysinstall not care about any packages before it hits what is
>> currently its "Do you want to browse all the packages" section is needed
>> if we're talking about not including pre-built packages with the release
>> itself and that sort of thing. We're just setting it up so all packages
>> get treated as packages instead of some being intertwined in earlier
>> phases of sysinstall.
>
> OK, that makes sense. Please track it though, it would be bad to wind up
> "hiding" Linux compat from users under a huge package selection.
>
> thanks,
> --
> - Alfred Perlstein
Yes, but it'd be nicer for linux compatibility to point to actual
working linux emulators instead of long-defunct packages (the Redhat
emulation package -- bleh).
I'm all for improving the linux compat layer packaging -- thanks Ken!
-Garrett
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