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Date:      Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:41:56 -0800 (PST)
From:      Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Cc:        sthaug@nethelp.no, kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10112260936230.57826-100000@athena.uniserve.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20011226130814.A13115@freebie.xs4all.nl>

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote:

...
> > Thus the advice to either use auto-negotiate everywhere, or use manual
> > everywhere. One end auto-negotiate and one end manual is a recipe for
> > disaster.
> 
> So, that implies that in these cases non-managable switches are doomed
> as you cannot 'hard-set' them to some value.

  Not necessarily.  I have an unmanaged Netgear FS308 switch (typical
cheap etherswitch), but it supports autonegotiate.  When I plug in a
FreeBSD box with a fxp card, the lights on the front of the switch show
that it has properly negotiated 100/full.

  The fact is, most ethernet hardware that says it support auto-negotiate,
actually does, and it actually works.  Auto-negotiation has gotten a
reputation for being unreliable because users end up disabling auto on one
end and still expect it to work.  Auto-negotiation != auto-detection.

> -- 
> |   / o / /_  _   		email: 	wilko@FreeBSD.org
> |/|/ / / /(  (_)  Bulte		Arnhem, The Netherlands	
> 

Tom


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