Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:34:36 +0100 From: "Leif Neland" <leifn@neland.dk> To: "Jeff Gray" <jwgray@netbox.com>, "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com> Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: co-location model Message-ID: <00b201c0ab44$a22da4c0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10103111918240.97103-100000@adsl-63-201-55-220.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net>
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> > The mainframe suggestion/query is to provide real reliability, real fault > tolerance, real hardware efficiency [jail does this], real security by a > well designed mainframe OS management system, real scalability of user > resources like storage space. > > > -Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of > physical space? Rumours are that Telia in Scandinavia are doing this. Leif > > > Jeff > > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > > > Have you looked at jail? > > > > With jail you can effectively create numerous machines in one physical > > machine. I am planning on doing this as an entry level option in our > > colo space. > > > > man jail > > > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jeff Gray wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:22 -0800 (PST) > > > From: Jeff Gray <jwgray@netbox.com> > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Cc: Jeff Gray <jwgray@netbox.com> > > > Subject: co-location model > > > > > > In thinking about the co-location model of many machines, whether 1U or > > > bigger, one realizes that lots of space, lots of energy [I am writing from > > > California], lots of iron and other materials are inefficiently consumed. > > > Let alone late night trips to the server farm. > > > > > > Instead of co-location with lots of physical servers if someone were to setup > > > a mainframe that provided, > > > -multiple OS configurations and alternatives > > > -centralized hardware management > > > -centralized security management on the mainframe > > > -flexible, reliable, scalable storage > > > > > > then space, energy, raw materials and I suspect major costs could be > > > minimized. Late night trips to the server could be eliminated! > > > > > > My two questions. > > > -Is this a reasonable long term model for ISPs and or server farms? > > > > > > -Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of > > > physical space? > > > > > > > > > [I say mainframe only to emphasize extreme hardware and software > > > reliability]. > > > > > > Interested to hear what the community thinks. > > > > > > Thanks > > > jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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