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Date:      Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:15:22 -0500
From:      "Jason Young" <doogie@anet-stl.com>
To:        "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        <chris@calldei.com>, <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Gustavo V G C Rios" <grios@ddsecurity.com.br>
Subject:   RE: CS Project
Message-ID:  <NCBBJEDMMDOPOMPDEKBPMEFGDDAA.doogie@anet-stl.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990909155325.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>

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> >  I think the idea (of a procfs ps) was shot down on the
> lists some time
> >  ago because ps needs to retain the ability to look at
> the process list
> >  in a kernel coredump. IMHO that's a lot of messy kvm
> groveling and
> >  associated kernel-to-userland sync dependencies, just to
> cater to the
> >  (generous figure) 0.5% of the people out there who have
> 1) a crashing
> >  FreeBSD box and 2) the expertise and the will to debug
> the crash dump.
> >  I think that issue needs to be revisited somehow.
>
> Well.. I do use crash dumps, but rarely use ps on them..
> Even so you could have
> 2 implementations of ps, or a ps which allows you to
> compile in a different
> 'back end'. That way you can use either easily.

I concur; those were my thoughts exactly.

> >  Unfortunately I don't have my proposal written in diff(1) at the
> >  moment, but writing all this out makes me really want to
> go ahead and
> >  do it. Then again, somebody DID ask for a CS project. :)
>
> Heh :)

Say, when is babelfish going to put up an English->diff(1) translator?
Would make things a hell of a lot easier around here! :>

Jason Young
accessUS Chief Network Engineer



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