Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 06:46:10 +0100 From: Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net> To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Paul Floyd <paulf2718@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboards for Ryzen 9 (was: Trying initial boot of FreeBSD (main so: 15) of Ryzen 9 7950X3D on an ASUS Prime X670-P WIFI: various dmesg -a lines; more) Message-ID: <f85c894ac6e9f98f3087de12c0bec714@mail.infomaniak.com> In-Reply-To: <20231112232231.GA17115@eureka.lemis.com> References: <A7AB0048-40EA-49FE-B204-CD32C79AD8D8.ref@yahoo.com> <A7AB0048-40EA-49FE-B204-CD32C79AD8D8@yahoo.com> <bc324f3f-0e60-42ce-8fd1-7ec5a2bd2f17@gmail.com> <4165447c9324f1ab40f9b25121acc912@mail.infomaniak.com> <89e0bc79-8d79-448f-b391-19f2f91ca1b2@gmail.com> <d97c90770cc16f3a1fc9dff6062b1386@mail.infomaniak.com> <cb1d943d-934e-4dff-8ece-9e5fce98c596@gmail.com> <20231112232231.GA17115@eureka.lemis.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 13:49:49 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote: >> On 12-11-23 11:35, Daniel Engberg wrote: >> >>> On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 9:46:18 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote: >>> >>>> MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk >>> >>> The MSI board looks decent I guess, the x16/x4/x2 layout isn't >>> great but >>> >>> it's not horrible either depending on your use case. Never >>> looked into >>> >>> their lineup due to lack of a decent builtin NIC. You can get a >>> separate >>> >>> one but it's still an additional cost and takes of at least one >>> PCIe slot. > > FWIW, I've just got a machine with this motherboard. It seemed the > > best option available to me at the time, and I haven't had any > issues > > with it. Yes, the silly NIC (where do you find 2.5 Gb/s hubs?) is > > irritating, but I need 2 NICs anyway, so putting in a second wasn't > an > > issue. I also couldn't find any motherboard that fitted the other > > requirements and didn't have this NIC. > > Greg > > -- > > Sent from my desktop computer. > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php Hi, Nice! So the sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer BIOS versions? Does the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use the driver in ports tree? 2.5G switches aren't that uncommon these days, https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12 https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12 https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12 https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/ https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&xf=13266_2G5 Just to mention a few :) Best regards, Daniel [-- Attachment #2 --] <div>On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote:<br></div><div class="ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><pre style="white-space: normal;"><div>On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 13:49:49 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div> On 12-11-23 11:35, Daniel Engberg wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div> <br></div><div> On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 9:46:18 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div> <br></div><div> MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk<br></div></blockquote><div> <br></div><div> The MSI board looks decent I guess, the x16/x4/x2 layout isn't great but<br></div><div> it's not horrible either depending on your use case. Never looked into<br></div><div> their lineup due to lack of a decent builtin NIC. You can get a separate<br></div><div> one but it's still an additional cost and takes of at least one PCIe slot.<br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div> <br></div><div>FWIW, I've just got a machine with this motherboard. It seemed the<br></div><div>best option available to me at the time, and I haven't had any issues<br></div><div>with it. Yes, the silly NIC (where do you find 2.5 Gb/s hubs?) is<br></div><div>irritating, but I need 2 NICs anyway, so putting in a second wasn't an<br></div><div>issue. I also couldn't find any motherboard that fitted the other<br></div><div>requirements and didn't have this NIC.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Greg<br></div><div>--<br></div><div>Sent from my desktop computer.<br></div><div>See complete headers for address and phone numbers.<br></div><div>This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program<br></div><div>reports problems, please read <a data-ik="ik-secure" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="defaultMailLink" href="http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php" target="_blank">http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php</a><br></div></pre></blockquote></div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Nice! So the sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer BIOS versions? Does the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use the driver in ports tree? 2.5G switches aren't that uncommon these days,<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&xf=13266_2G5" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-ik="ik-secure">https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&xf=13266_2G5</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Just to mention a few :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Daniel<br></div><div ><div><br></div></div>
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