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Date:      Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:58:22 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>, Dann Lunsford <dann@greycat.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) 
Message-ID:  <53082.962927902@localhost>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:44:17 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000706103005.00e05660@localhost> 

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> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The correct strategy is not to 
> emulate a competitive OS, *ever*.

This thread is as silly now as it was the first time it came up.

Read my lips: Nobody is ever going to remove the linux compatability
code, it's too damn useful, end of discussion.

You can, of course, choose to totally disagree with this assertion and
rant on for 300 or more messages on the topic if you so decide, we
cannot stop you.  Whether you choose to do so or not, however, nobody
is going to remove the linux compatability code and it will continue
to be maintained until such time as Linux goes closed-source and
screws up the APIs so badly that they cannot be effectively
reverse-engineered or otherwise emulated.  Period.  You might
just as well attempt to repeal the laws of gravity.

You can, and in fact do, also totally disagree with this as a strategy
and can pontificate at great length about your views on how to
properly support/evangelise/encourage the freebsd native API, how
ignorant we are in our insistence on supporting the linux API in any
way, shape or form or otherwise attempt to continue to fight an
entirely losing battle to somehow "desupport Linux compatability" in
FreeBSD.  None of that will change the fact that it's a fight you've
already lost well in advance and honestly, if you have any common
sense at all, you'll save your fingers and our mailboxes by not
refighting and relosing it all over again.  The users like and use
it and that means it's not going away, also period.

Not that I expect our very own Don Quixote and his donkey to resist
tilting at this particular windmill again, at least not without firing
at least a few shots at us for "our unbelievable short-sightedness"
(or some such variant on the above), but I suppose I can dream.

- Jordan


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