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Date:      Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:57:48 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        Perry Hutchison <perryh@pluto.rain.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, yonas@fizk.net, mexas@bris.ac.uk
Subject:   Re: Depreciate and remove gbde
Message-ID:  <201510192058.t9JKvmBL045599@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:17:26 %2B0300." <20151019091726.GG42243@zxy.spb.ru>

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Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 01:52:05AM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote:
> 
> > Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bris.ac.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > I use gbde.
> > > Can switch to geli, if required,
> > > but please provide detailed instructions
> > > for switching before removing gbde.
> > 
> > Such instructions would presumably be included in the UPDATING
> > entry.
> > 
> > An additional consideration:  If there is no convert-in-place
> > mechanism -- i.e. the only way to convert a gbde FS to geli is to
> > backup, wipe, and restore (thus involving considerable downtime)
> > -- it will give some unknown number of production users a strong
> > motivation to freeze at [last version of FreeBSD to include gbde
> > support].
> 
> This must be show-stoper for removing gbde.

Yes.

Someone with a commit bit could hopefully add a line or 2 to man gbde, that
as gbde was around in 5.0-RELEASE 2003, gbde is No Longer experimental,
it's stable & in use; newbies need not be scared.

https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=gbde&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html

which was released pre 2006
	https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported.html
Jan 16 2003
	https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/5.0.0/README?view=markup

Jan 16 16:56:23 2003 
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/5.0.0/sbin/gbde/gbde.8?revision=109388&view=markup

Cheers,
Julian
--
Julian Stacey,  BSD Linux Unix Sys. Eng. Consultant Munich http://berklix.com
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