Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:50:34 -0500 From: John Brann <john@brann.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wow, it has been a while Message-ID: <20000317165034.B86459@freebie.brann.org> In-Reply-To: <200003172137.OAA21560@usr02.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 09:37:27PM %2B0000 References: <20000317160515.A86674@freebie.brann.org> <200003172137.OAA21560@usr02.primenet.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 09:37:27PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
[...SNIP...]
> >
> > I'm sure Terry Lambert would fulminate about my choices, and call down the
> > judgement of heaven on the lack of orthogonality in the file-system stacking
> > layers, but he too, represents a source of innovative thinking (and fine
> > email commentary) in FreeBSD.
>
> Since my employer paid for the Soft Updates port, and since Soft
> Updates was my suggestion on how to get rid of the heavy and
> expensive UPS in the first generation product, and since I was
> involved in the initial integration work, trouble shooting, etc.,
> I'm unlikely to call down the Wrath Of God on you for soft updates.
>
> That said, it could have been done somewhat differently, which would
> have allowed exporting a transactioning interface to user space via
> a stacking layer, and that would have been quite a coup for support
> of databases which currently have to use raw partitions and do their
> own transaction tracking on systems without one...
>
> 8-p
>
> Terry Lambert
> terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.
>
>
I love it when a plan comes together - thanks for justifying my faith in
you, Terry :)
Incidentally, I agree wholeheartedly with your point about the value of
a transactioning interface. It's also useful in the queue middleware world
(where I earn my crust) - producing something like IBM's MQSeries, but
lighter in weight - becomes a snip with the ability to rely on a disk
transaction. I have fond memories of working with the Stratus VOS OS which
had just such a facility.
John
--
Unreal City,
Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
finger john@doorman.brann.org for pgp public key
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20000317165034.B86459>