Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:58:44 -0000 From: "Cameron Grant" <gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk> To: "Randall Hopper" <aa8vb@ipass.net> Cc: "Amancio Hasty" <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, "Conrad Sabatier" <conrads@home.com>, <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, <multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Message-ID: <000c01bf92af$144ac600$0304020a@NENYA> References: <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <000701bf91d5$4aebeb60$0304020a@NENYA> <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> <20000320153429.A1373@ipass.net>
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> |to my knowledge, midi is the only functionality missing. also, multiple
> |opens of /dev/dsp are not yet implemented. both will be soon.
>From what I hear, it sounds like we need some more testing time too.
exactly *what* do you think -current is?
> |> Why would we transition any other way?
> |because various functionality voxware uses is now optional
> What does this mean?
unless you define 'options COMPAT_OLDISA' voxware will not compile.
> |and will be gone in the coming weeks. the kernel does not revolve
around
> |sound,
> Exactly. The kernel revolves around applications. And applications
> revolve around users and their needs.
-current revolves around developers. 5.0-release will be at least a year in
the making.
> |and voxware is an acceptable loss. once the isa shims are gone, voxware
> |will not compile without being newbusified which is a task of great
> |magnitude. at this time, the point is moot.
> Is it? You own a 400 room apartment building. You've built a
> brand-spankin new 200 room apartment building with a pool. Cool. Now you
> say to the residents, "Everybody over to the new building with the pool.
> We're gonna blow the other one up!" Do you really think the residents in
> the other 200 rooms are going to sleep on the the street while you expand?
> There are other apartments....
this similie is not appropriate to -current, which is the subject of this
discussion.
> |unless someone comes forward with a newbusified voxware, it will be
> |removed soon. i, and others, will want to see code, not promises.
> Sorry Fred. That line don't fly with me. I don't have to stand ready
with
> coding time to fix anything you want to break or rip out.
then suffer the loss gracefully.
-cg
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