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Date:      Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:55:30 +0100
From:      Joel Dahl <joel@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Remko Lodder <remko@FreeBSD.org>, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: www/share/sgml header.ent www/en/layout/css layout.css www/en index.xsl
Message-ID:  <1165244130.691.40.camel@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <200612031944.kB3Ji1Ma081957@repoman.freebsd.org> <45732F01.6040204@FreeBSD.org> <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org>

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On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 22:51 +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Remko Lodder wrote:
> 
> > Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >> blackend    2006-12-03 19:44:01 UTC
> >>
> >>   FreeBSD doc repository
> >>
> >>   Modified files:
> >>     share/sgml           header.ent     en/layout/css        layout.css 
> >> en                   index.xsl   Log:
> >>   Put the Foundation link on the top navbar.
> >>     Requested by:   rwatson
> >>   Approved by:    doceng
> >
> > Isn't this something we should discuss on www@ ? We mostly had the idea that 
> > if something was to be added on the pages we should remove something to 
> > refrain from getting overloaded again.  That said; we still have multiple 
> > reported issues which should be resolved prior to adding these kind of 
> > links.
> >
> > I would like to see at least some discussion on www@ first so could you 
> > please ponder on backing out this change till this had been discussed?
> 
> Hmm.  I would really prefer we keep the highly visible top-of-page link for 
> the Foundation while the details are sorted it out, rather than removing it. 
> The Foundation is about $140k in the red on our annual budget right now, and 
> we're in the throes of a fundraising campaign to try to raise the funds to pay 
> for next year's developer travel, conference sponsorshop (AsiaBSDCon, 
> EuroBSDCon, BSDCan), developer summits, etc.  I appreciate the need to go 
> about things the right way, hence our contacting doceng to request the change 

Contacting doceng is definitely not the right way to do it.

Instead, sending a request to www@ with the above information about the
foundation fundraise would be a far better thing to do.  I would add the
link to the foundation instantly if I see such a request on www@ (your
mail sat in doceng's inbox for a week before anything happened according
to Marc, so I really don't see how that can be considered the fastest
solution).

Anyway, right now we have three links to the foundation on the front
page: one in the news box, one at the bottom, and the fresh link Marc
just added.  We also have a "Donate" link at the top which leads to the
donation page where you can find some additional info about donating to
FreeBSD/The Foundation.  This is not ideal at all.

I'd like a link on the front page that leads _directly_ to
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ with the text "Donate to
FreeBSD" or something equivalent.  Where should we put it you might ask?
Well, remove the "Text size: Normal / Large | Donate | Contact" string
from the top of the page and replace it with the link I just suggested.
The Normal/Large option is broken anyway and we could put the contact
link at the bottom of the page instead, next to the legal stuff.

-- 
Joel




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