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Date:      Sat, 30 Dec 2017 18:41:59 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <embedded@freebsd.org>, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>,  "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" <freebsd-mips@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning
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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:

> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
> > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When
> last I
> > > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally
> > > came
> > > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory.
> > > >
> > > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted
> w/o
> > > loss
> > > > of functionality.
> > >
> > > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about
> > > this.  It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has
> > > NOT been done yet.  At least that is how I read the persons
> > > comments.
> >
> >
> > That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and
> we've
> > arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email asking
> > for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my
> interpretation
> > is correct.
>
> Thanks.  Also you might want to ping the router projects folks,
> as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and
> they may have info on which of the implementations work better,
> and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x
> can just be axed.  I know this project is out there someplace,
> but can not find a link for it right now.    And I have seen
> some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months.


It's their responsibility to feed back changes to the project if they have
them. As far as I can tell in my brief research, they don't have anything
relevant.

Warner


> > Warner
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to
> > > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a
> bunch of
> > > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips.
> What am
> > > I
> > > > missing?
> > > >
> > > > Warner
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <mizhka@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Warner,
> > > > >
> > > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to
> be
> > > kept
> > > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik
> from
> > > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte
> is
> > > to be
> > > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while.
> > > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router"
> with
> > > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested).
> > > > >
> > > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your
> > > family.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following
> > > before the
> > > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old)
> > > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards
> lack
> > > > >> memory, very old)
> > > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete)
> > > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so)
> > > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to
> > > arch@.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these
> older
> > > > >> ports
> > > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work
> on
> > > these
> > > > >> boards anymore.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer
> > > running
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Warner
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Rod Grimes
> > > rgrimes@freebsd.org
> > >
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>
> --
> Rod Grimes
> rgrimes@freebsd.org
>



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