Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 04:22:31 +0000 From: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> To: dan_partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160420042231.GA5035@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <27b37d3f66ba7ac7df7bf3fd2c4ccd88@rdsor.ro> References: <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <BF66EA01-E073-45F0-8F9E-22D57E8871B0@bsdimp.com> <aac60be5cf51d9f3f0beda1cff960f93@rdsor.ro> <20160420040711.GL1554@FreeBSD.org> <27b37d3f66ba7ac7df7bf3fd2c4ccd88@rdsor.ro>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 07:15:22AM +0300, dan_partelly wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 04:07:11 +0000, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:59:38AM +0300, dan_partelly wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress > is > >> > made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds > people > >> into > >> > dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a > >> > discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers > >> storming > >> > the castle. No good can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a > >> factor > >> > of 100 and try to have the conversation again. > >> > > >> > >> I'm frankly perplexed by this statement. Its seldom I perceived so much > > >> sorrow and bitterness in 6 lines. There is no castle Warner, unless you > >> want one to exist, one where you can isolate yourself from the > >> indentured > >> peasants and anything they say. Beyond your thick walls you'll be well > >> served, > >> every idea outside your wals will be toned down by a factor of 100 by > the > >> time > >> it reaches the lord, becoming total agreement with anything the lord > >> thinks. > >> > >> I cant believe I wrote this shit. But then again, I cant believe you > just > >> wrote > >> what you did. > >> > > > > And it's responses like this that are severely demotivating. > > Such statements, such answers. But Im done with this. It degenerates > in emotional outbursts, much to the shame of all parts involved. > You're absolutely right. I apologize for offending you and the countless hours spent on getting this new model correct. What was I thinking? Glen [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXFwQHAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KT7kEQAJ8Ol0JI9EhvXx0WsglKcDC3 jvZDG3UMrtuOJsdknnpasZrnfc6/l7tskY80ayIeQu+bSRIHoBcF3NcO/9QkLNCi IE9uKz9KQ5Urx7wXXoKed9ClpgDTeaBK12nKBeoY9muO3foRk8Sa4Bya/kCfkMQE bmeCKCZ2NDNF3dIrGJ1CFxu2SABqZ9FeD2CeyYpdx3CTso3mROHeIVvBqbWAn3Uw kdRSgM4ndw/pBr8yzgo3oOywmDq5coWwCa+iQxguTtScRjRHTUZ+n/kF0clh+0Nu J6n3WjYou1H7cb6a5NOSXDn9X3QICjm4D9EBJdoNNWXLA6ZOdcLFdz0d6rR0TPvL lwPtfmpLe20QdEdIi+a9w29hwxszDMNiNJQKnCT+v+MsPsxrWw7iSLUoZ6F4HpWD s0fn6w1VQPhU6rLKVIIjiUF289Hwk+srIGPkUoLeN15lhNEFoE3RAFbCUBeZU7Xs EiYSrjjDH8KcVuvY/MASh56zKkQYFtXrcTwOfqComFbPKiQ0Ngd12NMbY/L+3SvG jPXFshY/1NnOQEIh8BgRrqzgCjP4ugVatbXCwrvrOX4vS7SZozXOrPdSbJl00tm3 Fv4e8/IDq+MIJhj8V12VrThQ4d01+w5aQkO3D0AuekcahR7lC5rEvEsZk+2BF6Vl j9D0UzjKZqjWP9OkLLuR =1fvl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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