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Date:      Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:55:58 -0700
From:      "Kian Mohageri" <kian.mohageri@gmail.com>
To:        "Doug Barton" <dougb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: conf/105568: [patch] Add more flexibility to rc.conf, to choose "_enable" values at startup
Message-ID:  <fee88ee40710051655o6090896kefbe0dc4db401b1f@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4706B42B.20207@FreeBSD.org>
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On 10/5/07, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>
> > I have no problem accepting the fact that you don't need this feature,
> > but, on the contrary, it seems that you have a problem accepting the
> > fact that someone could find it useful.
>
> That is certainly not true for me, and I don't think it's true for Kian
> either. I can see how _someone_ could find it useful, I just don't think
> that a majority of our users would benefit from this.
>

Doug is right - I do not find it completely useless.  I can think of a
time when I would use it too.  But that's rare and I don't think the
developers should add code to support all users' needs.  Keeping the
system simple is more important to me than having complete flexibility
included by default.  Also, Doug mentioned a way for you to address
your issue without this modification.

> > The feature doesn't change any defaults, don't have any side effects and
> > can merely be ignored if you don't want to use it.
> >
> > Why are you so reluctant in accepting it?
>
> The rc.d system is critical to FreeBSD, and making boot time faster is a
> goal that always have in front of us. We have to critically examine
> every single suggestion for modifications to it, and the bias is
> strongly in the direction of not adding something that won't be
> beneficial to the majority of our users.
>

Exactly.  As a user of FreeBSD, I truly appreciate the critical
analysis the developers give to each feature request.  Don't feel bad
about being told "No."  I've been told as much when requesting changes
too.  In hindsight, I'm glad the features were left out.

-Kian



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