Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:34:10 -0500 From: "Isaac (.ike) Levy" <ike@blackskyresearch.net> To: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: removing CVS in Handbook Updating and Upgrading chapter Message-ID: <1359272102-5757022.21162222.fr0R7YAiH011169@rs149.luxsci.com> In-Reply-To: <20130127072036.GL1423@glenbarber.us> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1301241510470.86451@wonkity.com> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1301251321400.9389@multics.mit.edu> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1301251154450.5025@wonkity.com> <1359241802-3572135.75152325.fr0QN9mrI032137@rs149.luxsci.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1301261808410.2537@wonkity.com> <1359270722-3962523.11114096.fr0R7BNq4003267@rs149.luxsci.com> <20130127072036.GL1423@glenbarber.us>
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On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 02:11:23AM -0500, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: >> Hi Warren, All, >> >> I don't mean to exasperate you by pushing this thread, but this >> is a critical entry point for new FreeBSD users, >> >> [...] >> >> However, Nov. 17 isn't very long ago, warning of a process change >> which people have used and relied on for well over a decade- the >> kind of users which represent the majority of the base of the FreeBSD >> project, (people running lots of servers). >> > > Contradiction aside, recent events force the deprecation of CVS/cvsup. Understood- I'm not arguing the cvs/cvsup deprecation, I'm happy to see svn come in for development. > It should have happened a long time ago (2007) when the src/ tree moved > from CVS to SVN. If you're referring to deprecation warnings in the docs, I'm with you 100%, hindsight is 20/20. >> >> + ports, cvsup access end-of-lifed Feb 28 - great- drop all ports references to cvs/cvsup >> - source, cvsup deprecated - no end-of-life date set - please do not drop the current canonical base/src fetch method from the handbook! However, cvsup is still merely deprecated, without a clear canonical replacement, (per notes in my previous email). Therefore, I hope I'm being clearly understood that it's cleaner for *users* to still fetch *base/src* with cvsup, until: - canonical src fetch replacement is in place - whenever cvsup for base/src has an end-of-life date set, (like ports does- Feb. 28!) At that point, it seems rational that the last references to cvsup can disappear. (The rest of CVS can disappear before that though?) Best, .ikehelp
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