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Date:      Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:59:37 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
To:        gary@eyelab.psy.msu.edu (Gary Schrock)
Cc:        freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups
Message-ID:  <199909242059.WAA03005@yedi.iaf.nl>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990924130644.00a84dd0@eyelab.msu.edu> from Gary Schrock at "Sep 24, 1999  1:10:56 pm"

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As Gary Schrock wrote ...
> At 03:00 AM 9/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >Another thing that ISP coulds start doing (we are in process with
> >this now, but on a monitoring only basis, instead of a deny we
> >just log them) is to block all outbound from AS tcp 25 setup packets.
> 
> Hmm, maybe I'm interpreting this wrong (I hope so), but I interpret this as 
> saying that basically you'd only be able to mail things through your local 
> isp's mailhost.  It means that if you use several different mail servers, 
> all mail would still have to go through the local isp's.  Personally, I 
> would immediately unsubscribe to any isp that decided this was acceptable 
> behavior on their part.  I use the mail server at work for all my outgoing 
> mail.  Why?  Because the machine is lightly loaded and I don't have to 

So, the mailserver at your workplace is an open relay?

> worry about my mail getting lost in the depths of my isp's mail server for 
> a couple hours because their loads tend to run high.  (Hell, I don't 
> generally even use the email account provided by the local isp because of 
> load issues, my work account is so much more reliable).

I'd call this the ultimate reason to get another ISP. Not the relaying
stuff.

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