Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:45:30 -0800 From: "Crist J . Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting rid of /usr file system (was: Using a larger block size on large filesystems) Message-ID: <20011214034530.A822@blossom.cjclark.org> In-Reply-To: <200112131908.fBDJ8el02057@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 11:08:40AM -0800 References: <20011213105719.B4987@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <200112131908.fBDJ8el02057@mass.dis.org>
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 11:08:40AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:45:11AM -0500, Joe Abley wrote:
> > > Since it has been this way since OpenBSD 2.5, if not earlier, I
> > > think it is safe to say that that is not a high-demand function
> > > of the OS by OpenBSD users. Thinking about it, I don't think I
> > > have ever printed a manual page.
> >
> > Well, count me on the list of people who would be pissed if someone
> > decided to do this. I'm all for installed the cat pages by default, but
> > nobody is going to take away "man -t" support without a fight. I print
> > manpages all the time when I want to read through them and I'll need
> > them for more then a few minutes.
>
> I'd have to agree; I'd much rather dump the whole catpages thing (it's a
> bad tradeoff, IMO; CPU speed is cheaper than disk space) but certainly
> dropping the ability to print manpages would just be stupid.
"CPU is cheaper than disk space?" Disk space is jaw-droppingly
cheap. We're talking single-digit dollars per GB. And I think there
are a lot more legacy (386, 486, Pentiums) with a big new hard drive,
than fast CPUs with old, tiny (<1 GB) HDDs.
It's not like the catpages take up lots of space. They are smaller
than the manpages,
$ echo /usr/bin/catman | su -m man
$ du -ck /usr/share/man/man* | fgrep total
7189 total
$ du -ck /usr/share/man/cat* | fgrep total
5974 total
On a "small" modern HDD, 2 GB, the catpages would occupy 0.3% of
the drive.
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