Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:08:27 -0600 From: "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1016496507.48bc7c@mired.org> To: Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net> Cc: FreeBSD-Stable <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: /etc/make.conf question Message-ID: <15503.59899.400935.847878@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <20020313185236.T35428-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> References: <og7kog9kdj.kog@localhost.localdomain> <20020313185236.T35428-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org>
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[Replies have been pointed to -chat. Please use that.] In <20020313185236.T35428-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org>, Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net> types: > On 13 Mar 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > Better to pull and wait at least a short time before building to ensure > > > one has all the commits of a change. > > The wait won't ensure that, of course. How DOES one ensure that? > > I cvsup at least twice. If I get no changes the second time, I'm > reasonably certain that what I have is not a mid-commit snapshot. > > Of course, I don't do this every night, or even every week--that > might be a bit abusive to the mirror. > > When Subversion comes out (authored by many of the same fine folks > who brought you CVS, in an effort to do away with the myriad hacks > that comprise CVS), it will support atomic commits, which will neatly > do away with the "I checked out my sources in the middle of someone > else's commit" problem. I don't know if the FreeBSD Project will > switch (I've heard rumblings about Perforce), but I personally (as RE > at my company) will be taking a very long look at Subversion, in the > hopes that it will solve many of the gripes that people have with CVS > (it'll also save me from doing a lot of scripting hacks to add > quasi-transactional behavior on top of CVS). I haven't run into subversion before. The most interesting one last time around was Bitkeeper. Perforce currently solves those problems, and the people there love *BSD. However, it was built to look like a proprietary system they used elsewhere, not like CVS. Can you provide a pointer to Subversion? I'd like to see how many of the obscure things I do with Perforce it can be made to do as well. Thanks <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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