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Date:      Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:49 +0200
From:      Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.oberon.net>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        mike@sentex.net
Subject:   Re: GCC 4.0 [Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast]
Message-ID:  <20050425185349.GD25681@voodoo.oberon.net>
In-Reply-To: <20050425182033.GC40370@xor.obsecurity.org>
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:20:33AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 04:43:00PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> > > Well, I'd caution against jumping into GCC 4.0 just because of the
> > > claims of 25% speed improvement.  That's about the single worst reason
> > > to do it.  But if you're interested in moving the technology forward,
> > > I'd happily encourage you.  The changed language constructs are the big
> > > problem (extern struct foo bar[]; is no longer valid) since you not only
> > > need to sweep the FreeBSD tree for them, you also need to sweep the
> > > ports tree.  I have mixed feeling on the value of GCC making sloppy
> > > language extentions available for years and then suddenly revoking them,
> > > and I know others that have been affected by 4.0 aren't terribly happy
> > > either.
> > 
> > Well. if we're going to import it, it should be tested on pointyhat
> > first.  IIRC Kris already run tests for some pre 4.0 versions.
> 
> No, only for 3.4.4, which is going to be imported after I finish
> testing the latest patchset from kan.

Erm, is 3.4.4 already released, I couldn't find it on their page:

http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html

-Kirill



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