Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:45:39 +0200 From: John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za> To: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-ID: <CAGv8uaqcb%2BCnr9xgq=Z8gLO24TiXDLg6LSTnzgnEF36QqeuZpw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfr_WsHbbeY6FyKxFdx7dOaFEhk%2BiJLYQ6F4rLOUuf-zRQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CANCZdfr_WsHbbeY6FyKxFdx7dOaFEhk%2BiJLYQ6F4rLOUuf-zRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000000d08d505cf9ebc16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 17:38, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > Given that the number of available and useful armv6 boards has fallen to > almost zero, the time has come to look hard at armv6. > > There's a number of options. > > 1. Keep it as is. This will only happen if there's a lot more users than we > think (and we think there's nearly zero users of FreeBSD 13 and newer that > would want to run FreeBSD 14). > > 2. Stop building packages. Given it's small to non-existent user base, it > makes no sense to provide a package building service for it. > 2a. We should likely do this anyway for all stable branches since it's a > net negative in terms of cost/benefit analysis: lots of effort to produce, > very little use. > > 3. Disconnect it from universe: This will mean it will rot, though. It's a > necessary step in removal. > > 4. Remove support for armv6 in base entirely. This will orphan any RPiB and > RPi0 users out there. However, the RPiB hasn't been sold in a few years, > and the RPI0's connectivity is severely lacking given no SDIO support. > > So, which of these steps do we do before FreeBSD 14 and which before > FreeBSD 15? > > My vote would be to do 1-4 for 14 including 2a. > I'm using a RPI-B+ running 13.0-RELEASE. It is running permanently reading my electricity meter and sending it back via WIFI and IPv6 to my main computer. I normally upgrade to the next release when it is out. Normally by popping out the SD card and dd-ing a new image on it. I do not use any packages on that one. So my preference would be to have releases built and I am not too worried about packages. Regards John > Warner > --0000000000000d08d505cf9ebc16--
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