Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 14:06:18 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>, postmaster@freebsd.org, ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removal of ctm delta mail lists on @freebsd.org Message-ID: <20220505120618.2m7kkbaw2cl3vhi4@aniel.nours.eu> In-Reply-To: <202205051146.245BkmBf082946@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <3887FF04-276D-45E8-9D34-1D9A4AAA6B8B@freebsd.org> <202205051146.245BkmBf082946@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi Philip > cc ctm-users@ > > Philip Paeps wrote: > > On 2022-05-05 17:53:55 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Reminder to postmaster@freebsd.org No reply received > > > > Your message arrived. I've not had time to check. > > OK > > > At first glance it > > looks like those lists were never migrated from mailman to mlmmj and we > > stopped generating mailman aliases a while back. > > > > >> If you @freebsd.org have deleted some or all of those lists, please > > >> let me > > >> know & I will delete your addresses from the aliases list > > >> above, & I would also delete from http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#list > > > > I think that's fine. > > OK Deleted from web page & aliases & newaliases has been run. > You postmaster@freebsd.org will no longer receive bouncing ctm deltas. Thank you, I sent an email a while ago to developers@ stating that ctm* mailing lists has been decommissioned. I planned to decommission other ctm-* mailing lists, but I don't remember who asked me to keep ctm-users. > > > >> BTW if CTM lists dont show up on freebsd.org mailman proves nothing > > >> either way, > > >> as a long time back (way before freebsd.org started migration from > > >> mailman to whatever), > > >> the admins of mailman on freebsd.org made the ctm delta lists hidden, > > >> but they still worked. > > > > As far as we're concerned, ctm died with cvs, two revision control > > migrations ago. > > Wrong. Perhaps that mis conception was common & helped discourage > CTM. In fact CTM ran fine with SVN for years. CTM is still generating > on all streams that are bled across from git to legacy svn. > > Maybe later I or someone else will get time to revise the CTM > generator scripts for git. > > > It's a lot cheaper to reject spam directed at its > > corpse with "mailbox doesn't exist" at the gate on mx1 than to let the > > message get as far as mlmmj and reject or bounce it there. > > Well you will now only get spam directed at those lists, no real > mail fed from ctm delta gnerator scripts, so by all means pipe them > at /dev/null or whatever. > > Only exceptions: > ctm-users@ this discussion list to continue please > > ctm-announce@ > that list is useless & should be closed (if not > already) Stephen the chief ctm generator had no > password to announce to it, &/or preferred to use > ctm-users@ He has retired from ctm, I'm running the > ctm generator, I too have no password to send > announcements to ctm-announce@, so it's long been > useless. Yes that was the plan, and you confirm ctm-announce should be decommissioned. To moderate, you don't need a password anymore, but I need the name of the moderators. In the mailman setup neither you, nor Stephen were listed in the moderators, or not explicitly at least. So either I decommission ctm-announce@ or I set you both as moderators. Up to you. Best regards, Bapt
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