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Date:      Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:30:18 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Pat Lynch <lynch@bsdunix.net>
To:        Adrian Wontroba <aw1@stade.co.uk>
Cc:        Greg Quinlan <Greg.Quinlan@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: More SCO Propaganda
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909111225120.2002-100000@bytor.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990910235535.A23835@titus.stade.co.uk>

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THis is extremely true, having known some of the people over at SCO.
People like Kean Johnston and ROn Record (Kean was at outr FreeBSD dinner
at USENIX) are believers in Open Source (ROn puts together the skunkware
CD) and believe it or not, they are p0artial to FreeBSD for the Open
Source OS choice (well at least Kean is ;))

I nticed thier committment to Open Source back at the '98 USENIX
conference in New Orleans, and even more recently at the '99 conference in
Monterey. I'm pretty impressed personally, and Ron's a pretty knowledgable
guy. THey also employ alot of people in that department to put together
the skunkware cd's as well as the other free software that they distribute
now with the OS (gnome,kde,etc.)

Kudos to SCO for maintaining the commercial UNIX of thier own, while
really battling for Open Source. They do have to stay in business though,
so good luck getting SYS V source ;)

-Pat

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Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
							lynch@bsdunix.net
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adrian Wontroba wrote:

> (moving from stable to chat)
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 11:37:50AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote:
> > http://www.sco.com/profservices/linux/
> > 
> > I see that SCO is coming to the rescue of OpenSource Unix environments, with
> > risk assessment, stability, and most of all expertise.
> > 
> > I quote:
> > 
> > "we believe that SCO has the largest staff of Open Source experts of any
> > commercial software vendor."
> > 
> > "As a founding sponsor of Linux International, SCO is a strong proponent of
> > the Open Source movement, citing it as a driving force for innovation. Over
> > the years, SCO has contributed source code to the movement."
> > 
> > ~~~~~
> > 
> > It's just lucky for us that SCO is there to drive forward Open Source!!
> > (huge sarcasm)!!
> > 
> > Does anyone know if they done anything for FreeBSD Sability? :)
> 
> Not all the sarcasm is deserved.  Until I saw the light, and the cost
> benefits, I ran SCO UNIX and then OpenDeathTrap.  SCO had quite a
> positive attitude to what is now called Open Source.  Some of their
> developers were very helpful and active in the SCO news groups and
> mailing lists.  Header files and libraries were available for the base
> system so that you could use gcc rather than the ever so expensive
> development system (I think).  There were, still are for all I know,
> the periodic Skunkware CDs, chock full of ported and compiled freeware,
> which SCO would send to you for free.
> 
> Their claim to having the largest staff of Open Source experts of any
> commercial software vendor could well be true.  I'm sure that they do
> believe the Open Source approach and attendant innovation is overall
> good for them.  While they will loose a few sales to organisations who
> switch to Linux or *BSD, the majority of their customers seem to be
> prepared to pay lots for the product, and more for support.
> 
> Yes, a competitor, but a friendly one.  They don't seem to have any
> ambitions to take over the entire OS market, just enlarge their niche.
> 
> -- 
> Adrian Wontroba
> 
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