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Date:      Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:59:47 +1100
From:      Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Strange sockstat entries
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As mysterious as ?? appears in sockstat output it may convey a problem 
that is occurring between the synchronisation of the two source lists.

Wouldn't displaying sockets owned by the kernel also be helpful in 
diagnosing connection issues?  It would be helpful to appear as PID/UID=0.

An aside, when the kernel is involved in TLS negotiation, does the 
socket (currently) remain hidden until its handed to the process?

Dewayne


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