Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:43:32 +0100 From: Craig Butler <craig001@lerwick.hopto.org> To: Chip Camden <sterling@camdensoftware.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Message-ID: <1284133412.5254.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> In-Reply-To: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <C8AF9565.488C1%msommer@somware.com> <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com>
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On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 08:16 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Friday, 10 September 2010: > > >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer <msommer@somware.com> writes: > > > > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. > > > > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) > > > > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. > > > > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > > then, we're stuck with Flash. > > > > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > > JavaScript. > > > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > > > Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the > only good solution? > > I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is > evident. I have yet to miss Java in any way. What problems would it > solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach? > One that springs to mind for me is alom/ilo/drac console redirection... It requires java unfortunately. I suspect there are a lot of legacy applications that use javaws... It will take time for them to catch up once html5 is proper mainstream if at all. Cheers Craig B
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