Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:50:46 -0700 From: Bill Jones <bjones@polestar.org> To: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange ATA behavior with -STABLE Message-ID: <jUsT.aNoTheR.mEsSaGe.iD.102632415726577@www.polestar.org>
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mike@sentex.net wrote: >>If we're so willing >>to make FreeBSD work on laptops, then we should at least give a concerned >>nod to the most common disk system in average installation. > >Most common what ? Legacy system ? Most common out there today ? Most >common platform someone installs FreeBSD on for the first time ? The ata >drivers are most certainly broken for some people. Prior to big changes >Soren made, the ata drivers were most certainly broken for some >people. Remember when the big round of commits went in last time (wd to >ad), it broke support for certain old CMD based controllers. The obvious answer to me is "Most common platform someone installs FreeBSD on for the first time." All I am simply trying to say is that version 4.6.1 will be minted to CD and sold through the various outlets that market it. It would behoove the FreeBSD community greatly if this version of FreeBSD works out of the box and without need to immediately CVSup on a majority of systems out there. This means it should install and run without these errors on both a 128meg system with 80+ gig IDE hard drives (pretty common at most retailers) and on an older system with 32meg and 6gig IDE hard drives (a common "older computer"). If FreeBSD errors during installation or in the first few days of operation for a new user, it is likely that person will select another OS rather than searching the mailing list and website for fixes. Working "out of the box" is good for future growth of FreeBSD. Failing "out of the box" will have a negative impact. Personally, I'd prefer growth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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