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Date:      Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:32:00 -0400
From:      "Troy Settle" <troy@psknet.com>
To:        <sthaug@nethelp.no>, <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        <bvt@zenon.net>, <alex@aspenworks.com>, <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: I-Mail on NT equivalent for FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <BFEGKDHLHDNOJEIHJDBAGEBCCAAA.troy@psknet.com>
In-Reply-To: <56633.969267873@verdi.nethelp.no>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of sthaug@nethelp.no
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:05 AM
> To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org
> Cc: bvt@zenon.net; alex@aspenworks.com; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: I-Mail on NT equivalent for FreeBSD?
>
>
> > qmail, ezmlm, vchkpw, qmailadmin, courier-imap, and some other little
> > bits can build something that rivals CommuniGatePro.  I tend to do the
> > ezmlm stuff with ezmlm-web though (that may be because I had a little to
> > do with testing and developing it).
> >
> > For the ssl stuff, I put sendmail-tls in front of qmail for tls over
> > smtp, and stunnel for smtps.  There's also a tls patch for qmail around
> > somewhere to do it internally, and for sending smtps.  Courier-IMAP
> > supports TLS now, and you can put a stunnel in front of qmail-pop3d for
> > pop3s.
> >
> > The stuff isn't perfectly there yet (at least not three or four months
> > ago when I looked at it), but it's definitely something you can hack on
> > for a short time and get it to behave exactly the way you want.
>
> The question is, how much time do you need to setup and maintain this?
>
> We run both CommuniGatePro and postfix here (for somewhat different
> purposes), and are happy with both. We concluded that CommuniGatePro was
> worth it, even if it's definitely not free.
>

For 4 years, I used the FreeBSD's default sendmail distribution.  About 2
years ago, I switched to postfix to handle my virtual domains (using the
nifty MySQL hooks).  Last year, the company I worked for got bought up by an
NT-based ISP.  They used Imail.

We migrated ~5k user accounts from a FreeBSD 3.2 box (C333, 256mb, sendmail,
and UW-IMAP/POP3) to an NT4 box (Dual PIII, 512MB, Imail).  Performance went
straight to hell, and customers started bitching up a storm.

I since quit to form my own company, and have decided to use
Qmail/vpopmail/courier-imap/sqwebmail.  It took me about 4 hours to dig
through all the documentation and get everything up and running.  After a
few test installs, I've got that down to about 1 hour.  I don't expect
maintenance to be very timeconsuming at all.  I'm using Platypus, which I've
got set up to automatically configure new domains and create/delete
mailboxes.  It works a treat.

Anyways, my point is that while I fully expect that any UNIX MTA will kick
the shit out of Imail, I'd reccomend the qmail/vpopmail/etc solution any day
of the week.

--
  Troy Settle
  Pulaski Networks
  540.994.4254

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