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Date:      Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:28:53 +0100
From:      Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Harald Schmalzbauer <h@schmalzbauer.de>
Subject:   Re: where is kern.ca.da.no_6_byte?
Message-ID:  <20030723072853.GA802@genius.tao.org.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3F1E3270.A952B2DB@mindspring.com>
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 12:00:00AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Josef Karthauser wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:31:21PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > As far as I'm concerned, USB is a Very Black Art(tm), and has
> > > been since day one.  8-(.  You have to wonder how Windows
> > > manages...
> >=20
> > Windows manages because it is in the vendor's interest for it to work
> > and as such their install .inf script does the right thing, for some
> > value of DTRT.
>=20
> This is the conspiracy theorist answer.  I'm not saying that it
> is wrong, but it seems to me that more stuff is "Plug-and-play"
> without third party drivers in Windows, and without quirking.
>=20

That's true although there hardly seems a usb device that doesn't ask
for an install disk!

> If you want to push it out a bit, most USB stuff I've seen also
> works with Macintosh systems, and *definitely* can't do anything
> with a vendor supplied driver CDROM, so It Just Works(tm).  Maybe
> there is something to learn from Darwin in this area... I don't
> know how public the USB code is at this point there, or if it is
> published at all (though I thought it was).

That's a fair point.  I don't know the answer to this either.

Joe
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