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Date:      Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:38:21 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        "Frank (sysadmin)" <frank@student.rug.ac.be>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.0 Code freeze? 
Message-ID:  <200001180738.AAA15330@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:39:43 MST." <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org> 
References:  <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org>  <20000117084445.A11343@student.rug.ac.be> 

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In message <200001180539.WAA14475@harmony.village.org> Warner Losh writes:
: In message <20000117084445.A11343@student.rug.ac.be> "Frank (sysadmin)" writes:
: : So maybe this is the moment to make sure we won't need a separate PAO for 4.0?
: 
: That moment was six months ago.  No one seemed concerned about it
: then.

I just reread this and it sounds overly harsh.  Please forgive me, but
I've been ill today.

It would have been better stated that right after the feature freeze
for 4.0 isn't the time to start working on a PAO merge.  It is too
late in the ballgame.  6 or even 3 months ago when there was time to
do this at our leasure was the right time to do this.  That would have
been enough time to get things ironed out.

Also, the move to a new pccard system isn't helping things and is
likely creating some confusion.  It is thought that what is in
-current (soon to be 4.0R) is a stopgap until this can be finished and
the stuff firmed up.  That's why there won't likely be a 4.0 PAO
release, although the nomads have final say on what they do with their
time and resources.

Warner


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