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Date:      Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:11:35 +0100
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Showstoppers for RPI3
Message-ID:  <280455B5-E201-494F-A4EB-2426A12B7E2C@googlemail.com>
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> Am 26.02.2020 um 16:33 schrieb Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>:
> 
> On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 06:32 +0100, Klaus Küchemann via freebsd-arm
> wrote:
>> But that´s the absolute joke of the century :-) that these issues
>> last so long here on the mailing list 
> 
> The current freebsd-arm devs keep pointing out that nobody is
> especially interested in maintaining or working on rpi* stuff at all. 
> Why in the world would you be surprised that nobody is working on it?
> 
> If you want to run freebsd on arm hardware, try using hardware that
> people are actually working to support.  If you must use crappy rpi
> hardware, either run linux on it, or consider paying someone to do the
> freebsd support you need.  Complaining that nobody will work for free
> on hardware they hate working on is just... complaining.  Pointlessly.
> 
> -- Ian
> 
> 

Ian and Kyle,
 I am very sorry that I was misunderstood. 
My absolute respect to you, I always follow your work on drivers etc. on phab ,
I am not blind and can see, that you have much much work on other things(like me)..
I am the" RPI-hater“  no. 1 :-), have told that 100 times in fbsd-forums etc
from the 1st day on … but I am willing to work on it because it is so much 
requested… 
I am currently working on another gadget, will post that in the Wiki the next days…
very good results but when it comes to brcm hw ….. ;-) …
But I don’t want that fbsd is so much behind e.g. netbsd in supporting gadgets…
Netbsd has meanwhile reached the Ethernet-support for RPI4(ACPI-based)…
Wifi is supported there since months… and it shouldn’t be so impossible to e.g. adopt 
Those solutions to fbsd. ( of course only when people want to work on it,
 )..  but Ed Maste stated a clear aarch64->Tier1-roadmap and it looks funny 
When we fail in supporting devices while others do… and for netbsd afaik that are 
even fewer people working on it than fbsd ( just my few cents) .
So: Freedom to everyone working on what he wants…
But it is simply wrong to say that it is nit possible to support the RPI4 on BSD`s.
Regards and sorry again for the misunderstanding of what I wanted to say 
Klaus


 





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