Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> To: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020905104347.W52452-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <200209050702.g8572S190003@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > >> > Basically, its not that "God" cannot be rationally proven as much as > >> > the fact that without God, nothing could be proven at all. Hence, > >> > God is proven from the impossibility of the contrary. It is > >> > unreasonable to reject that which is the foundation for everything > >> > else. > >> > >> The fact that a proof either way is necessary, and takes precedence > >> over the obvious and observable, is how Mankind got -into- this mess in > >> the first place. ;) > > > > I never said that proof was *necessary*, at least not from a logical > > standpoint. But given that man is in intellectual darkness and > > attempts to "suppress the truth in unrighteousness" it becomes > > necessary to remove self-imposed stumbling blocks that prevent him > > from seeing the truth. ;-) > > This implies that man can see the stumbling blocks in order to remove > them. Typically the first thing that has to be done is to teach man > a course in sight, before man can see the stumbling blocks man has to > remove. I wasn't saying that a blind man could see the stumbling blocks. I was suggesting that a non-blind person could remove them. Of course, he's still blind, but at least he won't be tripping all over the place. 8-) Sight can only be granted by God. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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