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Date:      Thu, 12 Feb 2026 10:05:37 +0100
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Strange sockstat entries
Message-ID:  <86ms1e2uxq.fsf@ltc.des.dev>
In-Reply-To: <2b052936-205f-4fa3-bb35-6a9410b995a6@heuristicsystems.com.au> (Dewayne Geraghty's message of "Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:59:47 %2B1100")
References:  <2133E787-9AF9-4999-83DC-83B4C0CABD32@lafn.org> <864insbxvk.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <30A38850-8D1B-4DF1-ADE9-9CFFD238EABF@lafn.org> <2b052936-205f-4fa3-bb35-6a9410b995a6@heuristicsystems.com.au>

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Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au> writes:
> As mysterious as ?? appears in sockstat output it may convey a problem
> that is occurring between the synchronisation of the two source lists.
>
> Wouldn't displaying sockets owned by the kernel also be helpful in
> diagnosing connection issues?  It would be helpful to appear as
> PID/UID=0.

Why are you repeating what I wrote four days ago back to me?

> An aside, when the kernel is involved in TLS negotiation, does the
> socket (currently) remain hidden until its handed to the process?

No.

DES
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