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Date:      Mon, 22 May 2006 00:40:35 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD core team <core@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Product management (was: Apologies (was: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 ObsoleteFiles.inc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src/etc/rc.d Makefile isdnd pcvt syscons src/release/picobsd/build picobsd src/share/man/man4 Makefile atkbd.4 kbdmux.4 pcvt.4 splash.4 vkbd.4 ...))
Message-ID:  <20060521224035.GA35008@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20060521223749.GA37532@wantadilla.lemis.com>
References:  <32264.1147899148@critter.freebsd.dk> <446B8E36.8050902@elischer.org> <20060518000342.GJ61448@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521221556.GA97506@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521223518.GA34882@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20060521223749.GA37532@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 08:07:49AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote..
> On Monday, 22 May 2006 at  0:35:18 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 07:45:56AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote..
> >> A number of people have contacted me expressing concern about the
> >> message I sent recently, and that I was being rude to phk.  I formally
> >> apologize to phk and anybody else who might feel offended.  It wasn't
> >> my intention to be offensive, merely to draw attention to problems we
> >> have with product management.  These problems remain.
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure what problems exactly,
> 
> The question was who should authorize removing code from the tree.
> 
> > but shouldn't these be addressed by re@, portmaster@, core@ for
> > example?
> 
> Yes.  That's what I said (core@).  Arguably there should be a separate
> product management team, but my guess is that that wouldn't work well
> in our environment.

Actually that has been under discussion in the scope of axing Alpha support.

Given that I was a 'player' in that drama I leave it up to a core member to
comment further...

-- 
Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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