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Date:      Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:49:54 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, nate@mt.sri.com, sef@kithrup.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: More breakage in -current as a result of header frobbing.
Message-ID:  <199802220449.VAA15586@usr01.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199802220123.SAA22198@mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Feb 21, 98 06:23:14 pm

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> >  orthogonal issue of negative reinforcement Nate focussed on, which
> >  had nothing whatsoever to do with the difference between trusting
> >  people to do the right thing vs. having the tools *force* people
> >  to do the right thing whether they remembered to do it or not
> 
> Repeat.  It is impossible given today's technology to force people to
> make good commits w/out human intervention.  Reader/writer/llama locks
> do *NOTHING* (!!!!) to make people do a good or bad commit, and only
> serve to slow down the process with *NO* gain.

There is still no empirical proof that this is true.

Once again, I suggest implementing the interface with no teeth for a
month so we can see "conflict would have occurred" logs, and match
them up to actual occurances of build problems.

> Anyone who thinks otherwise is only showing his ignorance.

But of course, hand waving beats an experiment any day of the week...


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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